DJ Shadow
Lesson 4

twilife101 said on Saturday, 15 January 2011:
@ MrBlondNYC

Thanks for clarifying this question.
I'm afraid I have to admit that I have overseen the "sample chain function".

MrBlondNYC said on Friday, 14 January 2011:
The sample chain is what we use to connect to the original source. If an artist directly samples the interpolation of Trans Europe Express in Planet Rock, we don't need submissions for both. Just one submission saying that the artist sampled Planet Rock. The sample chain shows that Planet Rock interpolated Trans Europe Express. So if DJ Shadow sampled a cover of SWAT, then we need to find that cover for this submission and the sample chain shows that it is a cover of Rhythm Heritage's original version.

twilife101 said on Friday, 14 January 2011:
.......point b.) is seen from the perspetive of artist "XY" of course

twilife101 said on Friday, 14 January 2011:
I undertand what you mean. But the problem is in the end the user wouldn`t know that the song "y" is the real source of the bassline.

I will give you an example:

Afrika Bambaata has replayed the melody of Trans Europe Express by Kraftwerk in his song"Planet Rock". If the artist XY samples this part of Planet Rock the notation should be:
XY - sampled Afrika Bambaataa "Planet Rock"
XY - replayed Kraftwerk "Trans Europe Express"

I think the word "replayed" isn`t too inaccuate since sampling is nothing else but a technical way to record and replay / reproduce something.

And we shouldn´t forget two things:
a:) Sampling is also an artistical statement. A lot of sampling-artist are intentionally referencing other artists - so it could happen that artist XY shouts "Trans XYZ Express" over the sample of Planet Rock.
b:) When we talk about the sampling of melodies, vocal hooks, significant riffs it would also be appropriate to credit the original source for legal reasons - althoug artist XY just might have sampled the replay of replay of a replay

thunder axe said on Friday, 14 January 2011:
yes but having it listed as an interpolation would imply that dj shadow played the part himself. it seems, rather, that he directly sampled this from a cover. so it should say: dj shadow sampled {x}; {x} is a cover of {y}.

twilife101 said on Friday, 14 January 2011:
@ thunder axe.

You are probably right. But the sample of a replay is still a(n indirect) replay. If you wanna "explore the DNA of music" it really makes sense to link the original source.

thunder axe said on Friday, 14 January 2011:
dj shadow doesn't do interpolations. if it's not sampled from this version, it would've been sampled from an alternate/cover version.