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Tags: US #3 Hit, YouTube #1 Hit, UK R&B #1 Hit, US Dance #1 Hit, UK #1 Hit [Add]
Main genre: Electronic / Dance
Producer: Jean-Claude Bonaventure
Tags: Cumbia, Tropical, Trôpicalia, France #1 Hit, Signature Song, Belgium #1 Hit, Single, US Latin #1 Hit, Portuguese, UK #4 Hit
Main genre: World
Contributed by rafa_sc7 (9 submissions)
This song was so god aweful in so many ways and yet so successful. I will never understand it.
Glad to have finally found a childhood tune
Jay Gumbs is right. What if we linked every replayed version of apache to the less influential original version by the shadows? - this is an extreme case but you can see why it's important to find the most influential version. J Lo was not the most influenced by the original pan flute version. If it started and ended with the original, then the J Lo version with accordion and dance tempo would not exist.
"there is no way the J-Lo version samples Los Kjarkas"I don't mean "there is NO way"... I mean, if you understand the sample/cover chains then you shouldn't really link the J-Lo version directly to Los Kjarkas.
As someone already mentioned, there is no way the J-Lo version samples Los Kjarkas because it has the accordions whereas Los Kjarkas doesn't. The furthest back you could link it to is Marcia's version (1986) because that was the first version with the accordions in it. However, I think it's correct as it is here now (my opinion) seeing how Kaoma's Lambada is the most widely known version of the song, international hit etc. It really boils down to influence in a case like this. Not saying they don't know about Marcia's version but RedOne probably went into the studio and said "hey let's sample Lambada".
take a look... translate with google:http://portalesp.blogspot.com/2010/08/escandalo-e-processo-judicial-que.html
Submit it (Marcia's version linked to Los Kjarkas) and in genre select "Spoken Word". I'll fix it - should be on the site soon. Let me know when you're finished.
ahhh sure i see your logic. Wish we could just ask J Lo ha but that makes perfect sense chronologically. Way to go Gumbs! wish I hadn't notified admin now. I don't have direct submission privileges so if you wanna take this one, that would be fine with me.
@kirsh Nice find. Didn't know about that one. However, as you can see, all the covers listed here are called Lambada and not Llorando Se Fue, which indicates that they were influenced by Kaoma's version and not Marcia Ferreira's. Kaoma's Lambada was a bit hit in '89 which helped expose the song to worldwide audiences.So I'd link Marcia's version to the original and then link Kaoma's version to Marcia's. Then everything that came after would be linked to Kaoma's Lambada. Does that make sense? Opinions?
I'll notify admin I'm sure they'll figure it out ok. It would make sense to make J Lo's linked to the 1986 version and have the others linked to the original at least.
hmmm. some covers become other pieces over time and it's important to follow the chronology imo. Realistically, j lo was not inspired by the pan flute version. More importantly, if we're gonna link dance versions because of their similarities, then we should at least post the first dance version with the same elements. this one is from 1986. Kamo's version is arguably a cover of this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvqDI4TL6o
Yes, as is stated in the "Related Songs" section up there ^ along with the other cover versions, etc.
And the original is from Los Kjarkas, right?
My guess is it is linked to the J-Lo track as it is an accordion in both tracks, whereas in the original it is panpipes.if it was just the same melody on any other instrument it would be linked to the original.
I agree with joaowendel. Samples should refer to the originals.
Darnit - been sitting on this for weeks. Thanks for posting!
In my opinion, this song is a cover of "Llorando Se Fue by Los Kjarkas" (1981), the original song that was covered by Kaoma in Lambada (1989).
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